[Stackless] Stackless/Twisted Talk Re: Cannot Come!

[Andrew Francis]

Hello Christian and Colleagues:

--- Christian Tismer <tismer at stackless.com> wrote:

> Stick with Andrew's talk. It is good.

So, it is resolved that I will do the Stackless 101
talk? 

If there is nothing to be added to the Andrew Dalke
talk, perhaps Andrew Dalke would be better suited to
give it? 

What did you take out when you gave the talk at Pycon
UK?

> I think the 101 talk can be done without preparing
> extra slides. Maybe a bit is needed towards your
> intended Twisted theme, but this is up to you.

In the "Turn it into a Library" slide, Andrew Dalke
does mentioned "Stackless and Twisted talk for next
year" - This would change.


> I don't think this makes sense. What I'm saying is
> mostly my point of view about PyPy and how it
> influences Stackless' future, also about new
concepts >for stackless.I would say that this part is
very >dependant from me.

Fair enough. I was thinking from the point-of-view of
an early adopter.

> I don't believe in "Stackless needs Twisted". It can
> use it, but there might be other (simpler?)
>solutions. But that's not my talk :-)

Although this is a detailed outline I am smoothing out
a few edges....

Yes it is my talk so I appreciate people finding
erroneous statements early. Also I want to create a
talk that is accurate, inclusive and helpful.

Yes this is true - Stackless does not need Twisted. 
That said, I will argue that a high level concurrency
model is helped by a high level networking framework.
In this regard, I am looking at things from the
viewpoint of a newbie that wishes to do cool things
relatively quickly with few surprises.

> The sentence under 6. needs some explaining. What
> exactly is a job for PyPy?

Experimenting with stuff like new scheduling regimes,
coroutines, etc ....

Cheers,
Andrew




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