[Stackless] My Stackless maintenance work

Aleksandar Radulovic alex at a13x.info
Mon Jun 22 11:28:13 CEST 2009

Hi Richard,

First of all, I wish you all the luck in your future endevours, and I
hope you will find
a way to continue actively working on Stackless.

I'm not familiar with the details of your relationship with CCP (right
now, after quitting).
I understand that Stackless Python is a core value for CCP, I would assume that
they would be more than willing to help you (even financially) to continue your
work on Stackless. If Stackless is so important to them, and I'm sure it is,
that would be a logical outcome.

Simple donation of VS licence would be very good move on their side, I'm sure.

To my knowledge, CCP is THE "user" of Stackless. Are there any other
bigger companies with so much invested work in-and-around Stackless willing to
contribute to further development?

I use Stackless for my hobby projects, if any of them hits it big,
I'll be more than happy
to give back :)

All the best,

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Richard Tew<richard.m.tew at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I no longer work for CCP.  I decided that it was time for me to return
> to my homeland, New Zealand, and as such, I no longer have access to
> the same resources I have had access to for the period I have been
> helping maintain Stackless.
> These resources are:
> - Internet bandwidth/access.
> - Visual Studio licenses.
> I plan to keep doing what I have been for Stackless.  It is a hobby I
> enjoy a lot, and I've always done the bulk of it in my own time.
> However, how quickly I do it depends on the ease in which I can do so,
> which is partially dependent on the resources available to me.  I no
> longer have an income, and while I can afford these things, I don't
> really want to be spending money I don't have to without any coming
> in.   And ideally, I'd like to have none coming in for a while! :-)
> When resources were not a concern, I tried to get Stackless releases
> out in parallel with Python releases.  This may no longer be possible.
> New Zealand has very limited internet access.  That is, access is
> limited in quotas of single and low double digit amounts of gigabytes.
>  Having been sure to use my monthly unofficial limit of 250 gigabytes
> with Comcast while living in the USA working for CCP, this is somewhat
> of a shock.  The process of merging Python releases into Stackless'
> SVN repository is very bandwidth heavy and can use up at the least, a
> large amount of a months bandwidth quota.  While I am not really
> interested in trying out distributed revision control systems, this
> makes me look forward to when python.org moves to one out of pure
> bandwidth savings.  Having a fund of donations which can be readily
> spent on bandwidth used for Stackless, without having to be concerned
> about how much I use, would remove one concern related to my work on
> Stackless.
> As a programmer at CCP, a Visual Studio license was allocated to me.
> Now that I no longer work there, I no longer have access to the two
> versions of Visual Studio needed for Python development and building
> releases: Visual Studio.NET 2003 (2.5 and earlier versions of Python)
> and Visual Studio 2008 (2.6/3.0 and above).  I can use freely
> available versions of Microsoft's tools, but it often means days spent
> just getting them work.  And it means that any new Windows builds I
> make and release for 2.5 and earlier at least, will be unoptimised.
> If anyone can donate a copy of either version to Stackless Python for
> me to use for as long as I do this work, it would be appreciated and
> it would mean I can much more easily do merges, debug and fix bugs and
> make builds for Windows.
> If you are interested and able to donate towards either of these
> things, please contact me and we'll sort it out.  There's no pressure
> whatsoever to do so.  I'll still do what I have been doing regardless,
> but it might take a while longer to do so.  Also without a copy of
> VS.NET 2003, new Windows builds of Python 2.5 and earlier will be
> unoptimised (some of the Python builds on the Stackless web site are
> this way already due to my lack of access to VS.NET 2003 at the time
> they were made).
> If there's any Stackless related tasks you want done, are willing to
> pay for and are not related to the maintenance work I already do, you
> are welcome to contact me about them as well.  I'm not necessarily
> looking for work, I have contract work on other projects in other
> languages than Python on offer to me, but working on Stackless is
> interesting to me and I would certainly consider them.
> Cheers,
> Richard.
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