[Stackless] [Fwd: Wtrlt: Antw: Re: implementation of 'goto' for stackless python]

Kristján Valur Jónsson kristjan at ccpgames.com
Fri Mar 27 22:36:55 CET 2009

C64 basic wasn't very nice.
I entered some Vic20 programs from magazines so I understand your pain.

There was, of course, GOSUB, and BBC Basic had Procedures and functions...

You will find "goto" used extensively in the cpython implementation, particularly for handling error cases.  It certainly is a good use of it in the absence of exception handling.

From: Phoenix Sol [mailto:phoenix at burninglabs.com]
Sent: 27. mars 2009 15:30
To: Richard Tew
Cc: Christian Tismer; Kristján Valur Jónsson; stackless at stackless.com
Subject: Re: [Stackless] [Fwd: Wtrlt: Antw: Re: implementation of 'goto' for stackless python]


<silly face/> I just don't get it. I'm totally clueless. Stumped; Stupefied.
I really thought maybe it was a joke. I'm thankful for the laugh, honestly. <deep sigh/>
( no offense, please, I'm not laughing at anyone here; pfff, laugh at me if you want to... )

Maybe if I looked at a Python implementation of goto, instead of wasting your precious time, then I would get it...

I suppose I have it ingrained in my mind that goto must only exist in a line-oriented context. I grant that it probably isn't theoretically confined there, but I don't see how it could be sufficiently useful to carry it elsewhere. Especially when we have tasklets, channels, and channel-wrapped sockets and pipes, oh my! What is goto going to help out with here?

I'm not making fun of the idea (or anyone who favors it), I'm just very amused... maybe it's the childhood trauma ;-)
I must have spent months of my childhood, around age 8 - 9, transcribing BASIC from those horrible magazines and books. My mother kindly helped with proof-reading and debugging. After (who knows how many) mind-numbing hours of torture I began to understand a lot of the syntax and started writing my own simple programs. But those games really sucked ass, and were hardly rewarding... so I tossed the damned things (those infernal C64's and C128's), and hardly touched a computer again until I was about 19 ;-)

I'm still convinced that computers are fundamentally evil ;-)

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Richard Tew <richard.m.tew at gmail.com<mailto:richard.m.tew at gmail.com>> wrote:
2009/3/27 Phoenix Sol <phoenix at burninglabs.com<mailto:phoenix at burninglabs.com>>:
> Gee, just thinking about goto brings back childhood headaches from all that
> horrible BASIC on the Commodore64  ;-)
> Please, someone explain why in the world you would want to use goto in
> Python ?!
Personal preference.  Not believing the "goto considered harmful" hype.

Why not?


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