[Stackless] Still getting crashes with PySide
Christian Tismer
tismer at stackless.com
Fri Dec 7 18:53:13 CET 2012
Hi Lars,
what exactly did you load?
The patch from Anselm is from 2012-09-28.
python-2.7.2-stackless.msi is still from 2011-12-12.
As far as I can see, all installers and binary packages are older than
the patch.
Eek - you would need to build from source I think.
ciao - chris
On 07.12.12 15:48, lars van Gemerden wrote:
> I am more then happy to help solve this problem, but not sure exactly
> how. For example
> C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages\PySide\examples\mainwindows\sdi\sdi.py
> or any other example i tried does not crash on exit for me (at least
> not now). My own software does not crash on exit either (mostly/only
> on start-up, but very unpredictably).
>
> Did anyone try the
> C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages\PySide\examples\mainwindows\sdi\sdi.py
> example with PyQt?
>
> I could make a version of my own code with PyQt, but i wouldn't know
> what to test for since sometimes the suspect crashes don't appear for
> days or weeks.
>
> One question, i read about Anselms patch above. Is it included in the
> windows distributable on http://www.stackless.com/wiki/Download?
>
> Cheers, Lars
>
> PS: I just downloaded the latest version from the wiki ande
> repaired-> no crashes yet :-)
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 12:12 PM, lars van Gemerden
> <lars at rational-it.com <mailto:lars at rational-it.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> "One thing would be interesting but involves tome work:
> Can you install PyQt instead and try the same?"
>
> I am considering whether i could do so efficiently, setting up my
> libs etc. isn't really my strong suit and i have quite a complex
> program.
> Is there some symptom, test, etc. that could help me determine
> whether a crash is due to the stackless/PySide combination? Maybe
> the .dll that crashed? In that case I could switch when i am
> reasonably sure that the PySide code actually triggers the crash.
> Otherwise i'd have to switch, continue working with PyQt and if no
> seemingly related crash occurs for say 2 weeks, report back, which
> seems a bit roundabout.
>
> Would it be useful if i send the windows error (APPCRASH ... etc.)?
>
> BTW: Most of the crashes i suspect of being related happen during
> program startup, so before any user interaction.
>
> Cheers, Lars
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 3:56 AM, Christian Tismer
> <tismer at stackless.com <mailto:tismer at stackless.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Lars,
>
> this is good information!
> Since you don't get crashes from using stackless features, it is
> pretty clear that the problems must come from things that
> I changed to support stackless features.
>
> Good to know.
> Still, it would be nice if we had something more deterministic to
> cause a crash, especially a crash that occurs without manual
> interaction...
>
> I think to have a closer look into PySide itself, to see if it
> uses
> structures which are not officially public.
>
> One thing would be interesting but involves tome work:
> Can you install PyQt instead and try the same?
>
> thanks & cheers - chris
>
>
>
> On 30.11.12 11:56, lars van Gemerden wrote:
>> I am also working with a combination of PySide 1.1.2 (same
>> installer, but the 1.1.1 version had the same problem) and
>> stackless 2.7 on windows and have to agree that it is pretty
>> unstable. It is hard to find a pattern in the crashes and i
>> do not even know whether i have the same problem, only that
>> the crashes come and go, even when i do not change anything
>> significant to the code. It also happens when i do not call
>> any code that uses stackless explicitely (no tasklets are
>> created in the portion of code that is actually run, apart
>> from the main one I guess). Sometimes i get "unknown opcode"
>> exceptions; could that be related?
>>
>> It would be very helpful and comforting for the future of my
>> project if this were resolved. If I can help, let me know ...
>>
>> Cheers, Lars
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Richard Tew
>> <richard.m.tew at gmail.com <mailto:richard.m.tew at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Christian Tismer
>> <tismer at stackless.com <mailto:tismer at stackless.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages\PySide\examples\mainwindows\sdi\sdi.py
>> >
>> > Richard, can you please tell me the version of Qt and
>> PySide?
>> >
>> > I will try that on OS X, first, because I'm busy with
>> building PySide
>> > anyway. What did you install, a win installer package,
>> a pip thing
>> > or from source?
>>
>> I installed PySide-1.1.2.win32-py2.7.exe which I
>> downloaded from the
>> PySide website. It uses QT 4.8 going by the PyPI page.
>>
>> Yes, sdi.py, like most examples crashes on exit for me.
>> But every
>> example I recall trying crashed in much the same way.
>>
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