[Stackless] Fwd: Re: [Python-Dev] PEP process entry point and ill fated initiatives

Richard Tew richard.m.tew at gmail.com
Fri Nov 29 20:57:04 CET 2013

I don't think Python can really be forked.  A symbiotic fork, like
Stackless in the past or the 2.8 future, is one thing.  But the core
developers do all the work, and for the most part as a hobby.  To
replace that, and to come up with something people will choose over
and above genuine Python, would be perhaps impractical.  If you used
Python to name the fork, given it would be _a Python_, you'd probably
be batted around with the trademark.

As much as they create their own problem with Anatoly, and then blame
him for it, to some degree that's their prerogative.  I'm glad to see
though that Guido seems to recognise this in his approach.


On 11/29/13, Kristján Valur Jónsson <kristjan at ccpgames.com> wrote:
> Good heavens!
> I have all but stopped submitting patches because you end up
> having to fight all the usual fights with all the usual crew.
> Often these are constructive criticisms but often they are just
> knee-jerk responses and turf-wars.
> Personally I don't enjoy those and most often it gets me so tired that
> I throw in the towel and stop for six months or more.  I have a bunch of
> abandoned patches in the tracker that I can't be bothered with anymore
> because this senseless stubbornness has removed whatever joy from
> doing so that I originally fealt.
> I recently declined the request to follow a PEP through for this reason.
> Having closely watched Victor Stinner through his own pep process
> (producing some, what I'd like to think of as, constructive criticisms
> along the way) I am even more firm in my resolve to stay away from
> those.
> I'm amazed that python hasn't been forked long ago.
> K
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: stackless-bounces at stackless.com [mailto:stackless-
>> bounces at stackless.com] On Behalf Of Richard Tew
>> Sent: 28. nóvember 2013 23:16
>> To: The Stackless Python Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [Stackless] Fwd: Re: [Python-Dev] PEP process entry point and
>> ill
>> fated initiatives
>> I am not sure what has gotten you so riled up :-)
>> Do you think the Python development process is overly bureaucratic these
>> days?
>> Cheers,
>> Richard.
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