[Stackless] __future__ policy

Emile van Sebille emile at fenx.com
Thu Jan 9 01:30:09 CET 2014


I think the potential audience is much larger than just the stackless 
crowd.  Lots of v2 users will delay going to v3 but would enjoy some of 
the benefits of backported v3 features, and many may never move forward.

We're already on the path of SLP2.8 -- I'm just suggesting we need not 
be overly concerned with some potential future migration path to py3.x.

Emile


On 1/8/2014 4:01 PM, Richard Tew wrote:
>  From what I've read, most expect to upgrade to 3.x eventually, but
> have to stick with 2.x for now out of practicality.
>
> The work involved in going it alone and taking a 2.x fork in it's own
> direction, is immense compared to the work involved in piggybacking
> off the work of the 3.x developers by backporting, and primarily
> moving a 2.x fork towards 3.x.
>
> Cheers,
> Richard.
>
> On 1/9/14, Emile van Sebille <emile at fenx.com> wrote:
>> On 1/8/2014 12:29 PM, Richard Tew wrote:
>>
>>> I think we should approach python-dev and try and get them.
>>>
>>> Is there a core developer we can get on board, who we can ask to
>>> broach the issue for us?  Given there is somewhat of an antipathy for
>>> 2.8 on the mailing list, and we've provoked it before, it may be best
>>> if we get one of their team to sponsor the proposal.
>>>
>>> Really, what we're doing benefits Python 3.x migration in future, so
>>> them downvoting it is biting off their own hand to save their foot.
>>>
>>
>> Ultimately I see this less of a v2 to v3 migration issue than simply
>> calling a spade a spade -- we've now got v2 and v3 python languages.
>> One of which we're trying to keep breathing life into.  And it doesn't
>> sound like the dev group is on board with there being two pythons (of
>> their own making no less!)
>>
>> Be honest now, how many of us interested in a stackless v2.8 are wanting
>> to migrate our code base to v3.x?  I'd say none -- otherwise those would
>> be migrating.
>>
>> I'd forgo migration compatibility as an issue and move on to scratching
>> the itches.  Let's grab the candy from v3 and save the migration battle
>> for that day that might never come.
>>
>> Steven's comment that migration, once the decision is made to do so, is
>> a one shot deal can help make the decision that providing for a
>> migration path need not be the motivation.
>>
>> Wondering-about-the-status-of-my-v1.6-codebase-ly y'rs,
>>
>> Emile
>>
>>
>>
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