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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Lars,<br>
<br>
what exactly did you load?<br>
<br>
The patch from Anselm is from 2012-09-28.<br>
<br>
python-2.7.2-stackless.msi is still from 2011-12-12.<br>
As far as I can see, all installers and binary packages are older
than the patch.<br>
<br>
Eek - you would need to build from source I think.<br>
<br>
ciao - chris<br>
<br>
On 07.12.12 15:48, lars van Gemerden wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:CAP8kt8zKx_D5sqR=Hy2EaYFY42NUMFtPs_mAe1VRNuaEvR_ThQ@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I am more then happy to help solve this problem, but
not sure exactly how. For example <span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages\</span><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">PySide\examples\mainwindows\</span><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">sdi\sdi.py
or any other example i tried does not crash on exit for me (at
least not now). My own software does not crash on exit either
(mostly/only on start-up, but very unpredictably).</span>
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<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Did anyone try the </font><span
style="font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages\</span><span
style="font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">PySide\examples\mainwindows\</span><span
style="font-size:12.727272033691406px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">sdi\sdi.py
example with PyQt?</span><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font>
<div><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">I
could make a version of my own code with PyQt, but i
wouldn't know what to test for since sometimes the suspect
crashes don't appear for days or weeks. </span></div>
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<div><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><br>
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<div><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">One
question, i read about Anselms patch above. Is it included in
the windows distributable on </span><font face="arial,
sans-serif"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.stackless.com/wiki/Download">http://www.stackless.com/wiki/Download</a>?</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Cheers, Lars</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">PS: I just downloaded the
latest version from the wiki ande repaired-> no crashes
yet :-) </font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 12:12 PM, lars
van Gemerden <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lars@rational-it.com" target="_blank">lars@rational-it.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Chris,
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<div class="im"><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">"One
thing would be interesting but involves tome work:</span><br
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">
<span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">Can
you install PyQt instead and try the same?"</span><br
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">
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I am considering whether i could do so efficiently,
setting up my libs etc. isn't really my strong suit and
i have quite a complex program. </div>
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<div> </div>
<div>Is there some symptom, test, etc. that could help me
determine whether a crash is due to the stackless/PySide
combination? Maybe the .dll that crashed? In that case I
could switch when i am reasonably sure that the PySide
code actually triggers the crash. Otherwise i'd have to
switch, continue working with PyQt and if no seemingly
related crash occurs for say 2 weeks, report back, which
seems a bit roundabout.</div>
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<div>Would it be useful if i send the windows error
(APPCRASH ... etc.)?</div>
<div><br>
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<div>BTW: Most of the crashes i suspect of being related
happen during program startup, so before any user
interaction.</div>
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<div>Cheers, Lars</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 3:56
AM, Christian Tismer <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tismer@stackless.com"
target="_blank">tismer@stackless.com</a>></span>
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<div>Hi Lars,<br>
<br>
this is good information!<br>
Since you don't get crashes from using
stackless features, it is<br>
pretty clear that the problems must come from
things that<br>
I changed to support stackless features.<br>
<br>
Good to know.<br>
Still, it would be nice if we had something
more deterministic to<br>
cause a crash, especially a crash that occurs
without manual<br>
interaction...<br>
<br>
I think to have a closer look into PySide
itself, to see if it uses<br>
structures which are not officially public.<br>
<br>
One thing would be interesting but involves
tome work:<br>
Can you install PyQt instead and try the same?<br>
<br>
thanks & cheers - chris
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On 30.11.12 11:56, lars van Gemerden
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">I am also working
with a combination of PySide 1.1.2 (same
installer, but the 1.1.1 version had the
same problem) and stackless 2.7 on windows
and have to agree that it is pretty
unstable. It is hard to find a pattern in
the crashes and i do not even know whether
i have the same problem, only that the
crashes come and go, even when i do not
change anything significant to the code.
It also happens when i do not call any
code that uses stackless explicitely (no
tasklets are created in the portion of
code that is actually run, apart from the
main one I guess). Sometimes i get
"unknown opcode" exceptions; could that be
related?
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<div>It would be very helpful and
comforting for the future of my project
if this were resolved. If I can help,
let me know ... </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers, Lars<br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote"> On Fri, Nov
23, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Richard Tew <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:richard.m.tew@gmail.com"
target="_blank">richard.m.tew@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 7:10
AM, Christian Tismer <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tismer@stackless.com"
target="_blank">tismer@stackless.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>
C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages\PySide\examples\mainwindows\sdi\sdi.py<br>
><br>
> Richard, can you please
tell me the version of Qt and
PySide?<br>
><br>
> I will try that on OS X,
first, because I'm busy with
building PySide<br>
> anyway. What did you
install, a win installer
package, a pip thing<br>
> or from source?<br>
<br>
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I installed
PySide-1.1.2.win32-py2.7.exe which
I downloaded from the<br>
PySide website. It uses QT 4.8
going by the PyPI page.<br>
<br>
Yes, sdi.py, like most examples
crashes on exit for me. But every<br>
example I recall trying crashed in
much the same way.<br>
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